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15

Jun
2022

In Audio
Richard Barcellos
Samuel Renihan
Video

By Brandon Adams

Two-Tier Typology & OT Salvation (Response to Christ the Center)

On 15, Jun 2022 | In Audio, Richard Barcellos, Samuel Renihan, Video | By Brandon Adams

Reformed Forum recently engaged with 1689 Federalism in CTC #736 John Owen, Jeremiah 31, and the Relationship between the Old and New Covenants. We are thankful for their interest in the topic and for the precision they bring to the discussion. Dr. Sam Renihan and Dr. Richard Barcellos joined Brandon Adams to respond to the episode. Our discussion is available on YouTube and as an mp3 file – both in the full (2 hour) and abridged (1 hour) versions. Some supplemental material and links to resources are at the end of this post.

MP3

Chapters

  • 0:00:00 Introduction
  • 0:06:24 Overview of 1689F view of Old Covenant
  • 0:07:24 Perfect Obedience vs Outward Obedience
  • 0:14:14 Subservient Covenant
  • 0:17:22 Objection to Outward Obedience
  • 0:26:47 Exile
  • 0:32:01 God’s Longsuffering Towards Israel
  • 0:33:31 First-tier Function of the Sacrificial System
  • 0:44:27 Are All Types Symbols?
  • 0:48:16 Salvation of NT Saints
  • 0:53:18 Salvation of OT Saints
  • 0:58:01 Salvation by the Word in the OT
  • 1:04:22 Relationships of Types to the Promise
  • 1:07:48 Prophets Looking for Christ; Did all elect fully understand?
  • 1:14:36 WCF/2LBCF 8.6
  • 1:25:06 Substance of a Covenant: Old v New
  • 1:28:39 Did the Old Covenant Promise Regeneration?
  • 1:30:09 Were OT Types Bare Forms? First-Tier Function
  • 1:31:27 Jer 31: Historia or Ordo?
  • 1:34:18 Retroactive New Covenant
  • 1:39:05 Historical Theology: Subservient Covenant Quotes
  • 1:48:42 Affirm or Deny: Did Sacrifices Remit Outward Sins?
  • 1:50:01 Philip Cary
  • 1:50:46 Subservient Cov view is Key to Resolving the Debate
  • 1:52:54 Vos’ Triangle

Show Notes

John Cameron

The Sacrifices, Sacraments, and Ceremonies of the Ancients had their carnal use, over and besides the spiritual signification… So Circumcision, primarily, did separate between the seed of Abraham and the rest of the Nations; it did seal unto them the earthly promise: secondarily, it did signify out sanctification. In like manner the Passover, primarily, the passing over of the destroying Angel; secondarily, Christ: so also the sacrifices, and the cleansings, they represented, primarily, a certain carnal holiness: secondarily, they figured out Christ, and the benefits of the New Covenant.[1]Cameron, Three-fold Covenant of God, 399-400.

Thomas Goodwin

There Goodwin asserts that the Mosaic covenant “was Fœdus Subserviens to the Gospel, (as Learned Cameron calls it)” and “was truly the promulgation of the covenant of nature made with Adam.”

Goodwin, Works, V:330.

Following Cameron’s two-tiered typology, Goodwin called the Mosaic covenant an “outward covenant with the Jews” whose ordinances “besides their spiritual use in typifying things Heavenly to Spiritual Believers then, they had an outward carnal use to the whole Nation.” The forgiveness provided by the sacrificial system was “a Forgiveness of reprieval, not to be destroyed for their sin…and so had a Sanctification and a Justification which were not really such, that is, not of the heart and conscience.”

Goodwin, Works, V:331-332. Emphasis original.

John Brinsley

Quest. But how are those sacrifices said to make an Atonement for the people, or to Expiate them? for so the Hebrew word is there most properly rendered, importing a freeing and delivering one from the Guilt and punishment of sin. Now how are those sacrifices said to have done this?

A. For answer to this, we must take notice that in those sins committed under the Law there was a twofold guilt; A Ceremonial and a Moral guilt; or an External and an Eternal guilt. An External or Temporal guilt, a guilt before men, binding the offenders over unto temporal punishment. An Eternal or Spiritual guilt before God, binding them over unto Eternal condemnation. Now as for the former of these, that External or Ceremonial guilt, that was expiated and taken away by performing that which was legally required in the way of a Ceremonial satisfaction. Hereby the people offending was acquitted before men, in foro Externo, and freed from Temporal guilt and punishment, by virtue of that Sacrifice, or rather God’s Ordinance and Institution concerning it. But for the latter, that Eternal and Moral guilt, that was expiated and taken away by those Sacrifices only Typically and Sacramentally: viz. as they represented and shadowed out the true Expiatory Sacrifice of Jesus Christ. And thus are those Sacrifices said to have Expiated the people. It is a Sacramental phrase and manner of speech, wherein that which is the proper effect of the thing signified, is attributed to the sign. Even as the Sacramental water in Baptism is said to wash away sins, Act. 22.16. Thus did the blood of these Sacrifices expiate the sins of the people, by representing the Expiation of Christ, that Satisfaction whereby his people are freed from eternal guilt.

John Brinsley, MESITHS, Or, The One and Onely Mediatour Betwixt God and Men, the Man Christ Jesus (London: Thomas Maxey, 1651), 101-102.

As for those Sacrifices, they extended only to a Ceremonial and Temporal Expiation; and that only of some sins. But the Sacrifice of Christ extends to a real, Eternal Expiation; and that of all sins. So Paul delivers it in his Sermon at Antioch, Act. 13.39. By him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the Law of Moses. By the Law of Moses, by those Legal Sacrifices therein prescribed, none could be justified before God for any sins. So much we may learn from this our Apostle, Heb. 10.1. The law can never by those sacrifices, which they offered year by year, make the comers thereunto perfect. That is, as touching the Conscience, as the same pen expounds it, chap. 9.9. They could not in and by themselves, as separated from their spiritual significations, sanctify or purify the Conscience; they being Corporal, and that Spiritual. Neither could they give an absolution in foro conscientiae, they could not give any assurance to the Conscience that sin was pardoned, and reconciliation obtained with God. In reference hereunto the Apostle tells us ver. 4. of that 10th chapter, that It is not possible that the blood of Bulls and of Goats should take away sin: Take away the Eternal guilt of it. And as for the External and Temporal, it extended (as I said) only to some kinds of sin.

Brinsley, MESITHS, 102-103.

John Owen

All the Levitical Services and Ordinances were in themselves carnal, and had carnal ends assigned unto them, and had only an obscure representation of things spiritual and eternal.

Owen, A Continuation of the Exposition, 375.

There were some lines and shadows, to represent the body, but the body itself was not there. There was something above them and beyond them, which they reached not unto.

Owen, A Continuation of the Exposition, 204.

Philip Cary

We do indeed acknowledge the subserviency of the law to Christ, and the covenant of grace…But it does not therefore follow, that the law is a covenant of gospel-grace…The law is not the gospel, nor the gospel the law. And therefore though the one of them is plainly subservient to the other, yet they ought not to be mixed, blended, or confounded the one with the other, as if they were but one and the same covenant, and no difference to be made between them; only in respect of the different degrees of the discovery of gospel grace, as has been suggested… A subserviency in any thing to promote the ends of something else, does not make it to be the thing itself; the ends whereof are promoted thereby.

Philip Cary, A Solemn Call Unto all that would be owned as Christ’s Faithful Witnesses, speedily, and seriously, to attend unto the Primitive Purity of the Gospel Doctrine and Worship: Or, a Discourse concerning Baptism (London: John Harris, 1690), 167.
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